It's been brilliantly established already that "Nyota is not a white girl." Well, news flash to some: she's not mixed either.
She's just black. *shrug* Sorry to disappoint.
Now, I could list some of the fanfics where I've read her description has having a white mother and black father, but I don't want to create targets (it's no one I read on here, don't worry).
"But she's still portrayed as being 'of color'! Why should her being written as 'mixed' bother anyone?" Obvious Reason One: she's not mixed. Uhura wasn't written to be. She was written to be black as black can come: she wasn't light-skinned, wasn't from a Western country, and didn't have a Western name. Roddenberry was trying to make history, children; he wanted to make a point with her character. Lightening her skin not only obliterates the original point of her character--which is now legendary, by the way--but is just insulting to boot.
Reason Two: It's been said that one reason Barack Obama has been so successful is that he's mixed, and was raised by the white side of his family. This supposedly made white voters "more comfortable" with electing him as President. Just because "a black girl is fucking Spock" (and has the two core iconic Trek figures lusting after her) doesn't mean she should have her blackness diluted to make certain fans more "comfortable" or "accepting" of her--just accept the bitch as is, okay? A black chick doesn't have to be mixed to be found desirable by non-blacks, or to be easier for non-blacks to relate to. Being black is not a handicap or a disease, and liking black people doesn't make you a leper. You can love the character as is, and the universe will not implode. I promise.
Reason Three: Nyota's being mixed is not and never will be comparable to Spock's being mixed. Some fanfic writers try to pull their both being mixed off as some sort of epic plot point and fail miserably. Human is human, and in the 23rd century*--as every diehard Trek fan has surely noticed by now--aliens will detest all humans equally. The Klingons will see all humans as weak and childish. The Vulcans will automatically presume all humans to be illogical and emotional. The Borg will find all humans assimilicious. C'est-la-friggin'-vie. Ain't nobody gonna discriminate by skintone in 23rd century*, so Nyota being written as "mixed" accomplishes both jack and shit.
Here's a more detailed reason why writing Nyota as mixed character doesn't enhance her relationship with Spock. If anything, it detracts from the powerful notion of a hybrid being dealing with parents from two different planets, rather than mere skintones. For one, he is a complex biological anomaly, from both copper and iron-based bloodlines (which is supposed to be impossible) while a biracial human is not (how many nappy-headed mixed kids did you see today?). Two, his being mixed and dealing with humans from an alien perspective allows for the writers to provide commentary on all humanity (just as they did through Data, and Worf, and Tuvok, and the Doctor and Phlox, and [unfortunately] T'Pol) while a biracial human in any century does not (i.e., a person who's black-and-white mixed can't help a writer effectively give commentary on, say, Asians or Latinos).
Reason Four: when writing Spuhura fic, white people (and don't worry, most of you get it right), Spock is the "Other." Their relationship is controversial, interesting, scintillating, and an overall excellent plot point because SPOCK is the "Other", and for once, not the black woman he's tapping. Remember, Trek is mostly written from a human perspective (we've yet to have an alien regularly starring as a captain). So the humans who see Spock and Uhura together can immediately understand what he sees in her, but not what she sees in him. One writer on fanfiction.net captured it perfectly when she described the irritation a group of human males (all white, by the way) felt when seeing Uhura having drinks with a Vulcan. The men didn't like the thought of some alien "stealing" their women. Not once were they thinking, "What's that black chick doing with the pointy-eared white guy?" because the writer immediately grasped that it would be contradictory to 23rd-century* thinking.
I could go on some more, but I'm now becoming redundant.
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*Sorry for the original error!
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Okay, someone sent me this email (will not say who) but I've decided to answer it here. I'm doing this because 1) I need to make something abundantly (however redundantly) clear and 2) because I'm hoping not to get any more emails like this ever again.
"...Zoe Saldana is a black woman of Indian/Irish/Lebanese descent. In terms of your discussion, she's lighter skinned than a lot of the people in the neighborhood where I live (West End in Atlanta), has a Western name, and is from a Western country, and, yes, she's playing an African woman, and there are a variety of skintones in Africa, but, honestly, before I read the rest I didn't know if you were arguing for or against Saldana's Uhura. From reading the rest and elsewhere in the comments I think we're both on the same page that Saldana is a black actress who identifies with and participates in black American culture and that the fact that she's a black actress is non-negotiable, regardless of her diverse ancestory, because a full participant in the diaspora doesn't dictate that all your ancestors were African."
Firstly, I'm neither arguing for nor against Saldana as Uhura; I wasn't thinking of her when I wrote my initial post (I didn't even mention her). Saldana portrayed Uhura, but she ISN'T Uhura--let's make that distinction now. Speaking in terms of strictly "Uhura"--and unfortunately having to repeat myself--Uhura is black. Her being simply black is a necessity to Star Trek, not just in the 60s, but as we are seeing here, today as well. Bringing up Saldana's mixed heritage in response to this topic is like trying to put out a fire with napalm; though the sender of this email supposedly agrees with portraying her as black only, they're still subconsciously entertaining alternate possibilities as to her ancestry--which is precisely what's causing the outrage. This is what I meant when I talked about liking a black character as is.
"Where my questions really lay is that I don't think in terms of canon (Roddenberry's white male canon, mind) that it matters if she's mixed or not, and that the writers writing her as mixed are doing it for offensive reasons, but at the same time in terms of the canon /irregardless/ of whether she has white, Arab, Japanese, or Pacific Islander ancestors she's an African woman. As you said "Other thing: in the ST 'verse, race is supposedly not a problem. In our 'verse, yeah sure...it'll be a problem. Either way, fanfic writers need to keep up." I think that goes way beyond whether or not she has black parents."
Uh, Universe Regulations 36.23something-something, "A human being cannot have their cake and eat it too." Allow me to elaborate:
This is where both realistic demographic trends and Star Trek fiction actually mesh--in the 23rd century (which isn't that far away, btw), we're not all going to be mixed; plenty of humans will still be of one race. The evitable race mixing that will occur, however, is not going to happen the way fans of a "Mixed Nyota" think its going to happen. Sociologists predict it'll actually be the other way around: whites are already a minority globally, whites are expected to a be an American minority within the next 50 years or so, and children of color currently outnumber white children nationwide.
Now follow these demographic trends over a course of an additional two centuries both in the real world and in the Trek world. The bridge crew of the Enterprise looks a lot different now, doesn't it?
If you're wondering where I'm going with this, it's simple: only Nyota's race has been an issue for white Trek fans, and this only happened once she locked lips with Spock. No one else on the Enterprise is seriously, rigorously being racially analyzed--not McCoy, Scotty, Kirk, Chekov, or Spock. Not even Sulu--thank God (or should I wait 'til the writers hook him up with Chapel or something?) Only Nyota gets the scrutinizing racial attention.
See, people of color got over her blackness the moment we first saw her in the 20th century. Now in the 21st century, when we're supposed to be more accepting, young fans are rewriting her completely, effectively defeating Roddenberry's initial message of racial tolerance and understanding. How sad is it that an older white man in the Sixties with limited access to racial information, history, and analyses manage to better characterize people of color than young white people in 2009 who have access to friggin' Wikipedia? Are we going backwards now?
You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't have it both ways. If you want to even briefly consider the notion that she's mixed in some way, you'd have to entertain that notion for EVERYBODY.
Chekov
Russia and China share a border. Race mixing isn't unexpected in that area for now, so two hundred years from now, it's likely Chekov could at least be partially Chinese.
Kirk and McCoy
As stated earlier, whites in America are expected to be a minority in fifty years and children of color currently outnumber white children. Continue with that trend for the next two hundred years. What would they look like? With the growing number of Hispanics in America, and black-and-white mixed children, I'm certain they'd look vastly different from how they do now.
Sulu
His last name isn't Japanese, as he was named after a sea and written to represent all of Asia. That's why Korean-American John Cho was allowed to portray a character originated by Japanese-American George Takei. Naturally, his Asian ancestors will no doubt be quite varied.
Spock
Yup. I said it. It needed to be said. The pointy-eared hottie himself is not exempt. The Vulcans were originally based off the Asians, and their culture was inspired by Asian philosophy (note the composer's use of the Chinese erhu in the score when the scenes deal with Spock and Sarek). So if a young Sarek came to Earth and found himself illogically desirous of human women, then the most logical course of action would be to marry a woman whose countenance and culture most closely resembled his own, in order to make life easier for his son on Vulcan.
Nyota
Oh, yes--I said it! I'm African; my family is originally from Cameroon, and I have Arabic blood from my mother's side. This combination is not that uncommon. The trend has been going on for centuries, so what's two more? If Nyota were to be mixed, her non-African genes would most likely come from Arabia or India.
My point? If you're going to play the Mixed Game, and dare to cite reality as your source, then at least do the proper research and play that game with everybody. Because out of the seven major Trek characters only one is black--we accepted that 40 years ago. For decades we've also accepted other inaccurate racial portrayals of humanity's future, whether it was Battlestar Galactica or Alien or whatever. So for white fans who aren't satisfied with five white main characters out of seven, so much that they'd even suggest the only black main character must be half-white, we who love Uhura as is (no matter who we are) find this beyond offensive.
Lastly: hair is not a definite indicator of race. Saldana wore long straight hair in the film--that doesn't mean anything, so don't get excited and rewrite history because her hairstylist made a really bad call (it's cute, but not very practical during battles).
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and while I agree that the 24th century will probably unite humans to some extent through xenophobia, I honestly don't think skin prejudice and/or racism will be gone by then. Slavery, colonization and all the fall-out from that has some deep fucking roots.
August 27 2009, 23:57:36 UTC 2 years ago
Other thing: in the ST 'verse, race is supposedly not a problem. In our 'verse, yeah sure...it'll be a problem.
Either way, fanfic writers need to keep up.
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August 27 2009, 23:40:31 UTC 2 years ago
assimilicious
word choice ftw
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The realm of fanfic includes some talented writers -- I wouldn't be surprised if some of the authors who have produced S/U stories went on to create some very enjoyable novels with original characters. Their ability to capture details of personality, mood, emotion, and motivation makes even drabbles a pleasure to read.
I read SF novels written by authors of varying ethnic backgrounds & who write protagonists of varying genders, colors, and ages. If someone can create a good story, I'll stick with the characters, no matter how different they are from me. I don't need the characters to be "more like me" so that they are less threatening. As a Black woman I cross boundaries daily at work,in public spaces, in my circle of friends. Learning about others isn't just a survival skill, it's part of being human. Why is this so hard for some people to do even in fiction?
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August 28 2009, 00:14:32 UTC 2 years ago
I've, thankfully, never actually seen this, but seriously people the hell.
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Hah! So true. Backstory is your friend, fanfic writers!
I've also missed these fics, but I have an "if it starts bad, don't keep reading" policy so maybe other forms of badness are repelling me before I get to those parts?
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August 28 2009, 00:39:43 UTC 2 years ago
I love her because she is brown. And I must admit, with all of the "lightening" that is done to black actresses and entertainers (think beyonce 1999 vs. beyonce 2009) I was happy with the selection of Zoe Saldana for maintaining Uhura's color.
I think alot of the fic, and even the Rodenberry's vision was to erase racism in the 23rd century. But we see through the character of Spock that the "ism" still exists:
Racism is so 21st century. Specism (I know thats not a word) is the 23rd century.
And that's what you see alot- so I think both characters have the "isms" in common.
I could devote numerous entries on topics like this.
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Seriously? o___O
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Everybody can claim him.
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August 28 2009, 01:04:16 UTC 2 years ago
Maybe it's the hair. One woman on the Star Trek board IMDB posted something like, "Zoe Saldana has beautiful hair. Most Black women have ugly hair..." or some stupid shit like that. Zoe/Uhura couldn't possibly be all Black with that long straight(ened) hair.
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Also:
The Borg will find all humans assimilicious.
I lol'd.
Great post!
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It's a sad reflection on how some people perceive black women. You know the whole, "she must be part white to be a beautiful black woman."
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Spock is a completely different issue altogether and an anomaly. He is pretty much alone in the universe in terms of racial identity. There's no one else like him so he doesn't even have a role model or community to fall back on. That's why I don't think comparing Spock's situation to biracial people (i.e. Obama) really works.
I kind of agree on the Obama thing though-- I'm not sure he would've been successful in his presidential run if he wasn't biracial (as in if he were 100% black). Remember, for every time an opponent suggested he was too "black" or brought up the crazy reverend, we were still always reminded of his white grandparents, his mom, his war hero great-uncle and his biracial sister. Without that side, I think people would've been more easily scared off.
August 28 2009, 02:40:56 UTC 2 years ago
I bet not. I wanted to say more, but I'll stop here.
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(...But why is the text so big? I agree with the point, but it's eating up a big chunk of my flist.)
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I just ... I'm speechless. Never seen it for myself, but thank you for writing this up, so if I do see such shenanigans, I can point them here instead of having to write it up myself.
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I suppose it's possible that they don't know how offensive they're being to the spirit of the character and the notion that a black woman can be a strong, independent woman with a starring role right alongside the white men by making her mixed. But even so, when I write a character for a fandom I don't know encyclopedically, I check the wiki to make sure I'm not screwing up the background with some horrible obvious mistake. And there are several different wikis that have Uhura's background written out clearly. I know, because I'm writing an Uhura fic and I checked them.
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August 28 2009, 03:24:45 UTC 2 years ago
I am sadly *not* surprised.
Seriously, take a look at imdb.Every gorgeous black actress there has at least *one* board speculating about her mixed heritage.
Dark, light, it doesn't matter. The thing ism EVERYBODY is mixed because race is a social construct, but people don't want to hear that. The dark-light, thing, the straight hair or not thing, the blue eyed or brown eyed thing. It all has less to do with your concept of *race* than many think.
I wish, I could find a link to the Frontline special PBS aired some years ago, where they basically compared random genes of folks from around the world.
A black American girl found she had most in common genealogically with a Korean. A pale blond white person found he had most in common with a dark-skinned African.
So, in this case?
...In *every* case, I wish people would just take people's word as bond for their racial identification and not decide to label them something else simply because it makes them more comfortable to do so. i.e. he/she doesn't *look* black.white.asian.nativeamerican.
Because even when you take out the genetic crapshoot, it mostly hinges on how individuals are socialized.
August 28 2009, 03:30:59 UTC 2 years ago
Re: I am sadly *not* surprised.
The National Geographic channel has a show called The Human Family Tree premiering Sunday at 9p EST that might get into some of this.2 years ago
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If you're writing a story set in a specific 'verse, you can be as creative as you want, but you must be faithful to the rules of the 'verse. Because once you start drastically altering things, you basically create all new characters in an all-new 'verse, and you might as well write a completely original work altogether.
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